Lizard Gulch Excitement

DiscoDave · 01-20-2009, 10:18 PM

Okay, finally got around to getting most of my pictures uploaded from yesterday.

Gineric and I had been talking about doing a small group run and when he found he needed to take some action shots of Eric Kyle's Taco I jumped in with both feet. We tossed some ideas around and then made a plan to hit Lizard Gulch followed by Saylor's Cap.

Tippy-Timmy (nickname explanation to follow,) also came along. You might remember he was the winner of the Big Boy Toy Expo for 2008. This was the first time he'd had his truck out on the rocks and this small group was a good way to introduce him to it.

Just a few of the images that I've uploaded. I put the link for the rest of them at the bottom.

The drop-in was an interesting experience in itself and we could have stopped there and it would had been enough. Eric V dropped in first followed by the Taco which were uneventful.

Tippy-Timmy, first time in the rocks, had some trouble getting a good line. Eventually he begins making his way down and with no weight in the back it got tippy really fast, but nothing uncommon really.

Let's just say it freaked him out a little.

His main issue was driving a stick, because it quickly became apparent that finesse with the clutch was not something he really had down yet. That, and he enjoyed his brakes a little too much going down when he needed to let off a little.

We had an interesting moment with his descent though and for a split second we all thought he was going over. In retrospect, I think God must have put his hand up on the truck because I think he was on one tire for a moment and miraculously he came down on all fours.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...77735897&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...27969517&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...81912084&hl=en

Needless to say, he was a little shaken after that.

The next few obstacles were uneventful. We all needed some spotting here and there and no other heart-pounding moments to speak of. We came to the end of the gulch and the Taco and Greg's TLC dropped down into the bottom at the last waterfall with no fanfare, and both emerged relatively easy.

Eventually though, Gineric was goaded into taking his LC down ... my Rover wasn't even an option as I would have left my rear bumper in the bottom (and my wife would have accused me of doing it on purpose for a new HD bumper).

Eric dropped down in just fine, but then on the way out a snap was heard. He gets the truck up onto level ground and we start investigating. Tires come off, drive flanges come off, driveshaft comes out ... we think it's the diff. We eat lunch and then head home, turning out at the mid-point since Eric was in two wheel drive. He needed to be strapped a few times, which we all figured, but then saved grace by climbing out of the gulch under its own power.

Needless to say it was a fun, educational day, albeit and expensive one for some.

I can't wait for the next one

For the rest of my pictures the link is below. I'm sure there are more out there just waiting to be posted up.

http://s679.photobucket.com/albums/v...0Gulch%202009/

Lumpdog · 01-20-2009, 10:24 PM

Greg was telling me about Tippy Timmy. I guess Alicia has been one upped on that trail now!

DiscoDave · 01-20-2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumpdog

Greg was telling me about Tippy Timmy. I guess Alicia has been one upped on that trail now!

To say the least Chris!

LittleMan · 01-20-2009, 11:38 PM

I watched the video and am shaken up...I can't imagine how that felt to Tippy.

ginericLC · 01-21-2009, 06:10 AM

It was not good. Brakes are bad! I think that might be the most scared I've been on the trail. I mean I've been around a lot of rolls but this was just freaky.

I either have broken spider gears which would be good as it is $150 fix or the pinion slipped past the ring gear which will be about a $1200 fix. I'm going to tear into it on Sat. I have to get the project out of the garage so I can get the 100 in. This is my first mechanical failure in any of my Cruisers. I've dented, bashed, and broken stuff before but nothing mechanical. I knew that this was a weakness but failed to install the ARB in the front in time. Sitting on the shelf in the garage did me no good. The ARB carriers are stiffer than the factory ones and prevent this problem. ARGHH!

Carl · 01-21-2009, 07:28 AM

Good luck Eric, I hope it's not as bad as it sounds.

trevortoyota · 01-21-2009, 10:26 AM

i bet he went and bought some seat covers after that.

maybe he needs a rear bumper to counter weight the front one.

welcome o the rocks timmy!!

Trail Bus · 01-21-2009, 03:16 PM

He had some bumper weight, Me and Erick Kyle

at least untill the bumper was 8 feet in the air

BLK79K5 · 01-21-2009, 04:16 PM

Wow! Had to watch that a few times. Even made my stomach twitch! Way to scare the new wheeler guys...

Guess ya really didn't want him to come out again eh?

RCKSQRL · 01-21-2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ginericLC

It was not good. Brakes are bad! I think that might be the most scared I've been on the trail. I mean I've been around a lot of rolls but this was just freaky.

I either have broken spider gears which would be good as it is $150 fix or the pinion slipped past the ring gear which will be about a $1200 fix. I'm going to tear into it on Sat. I have to get the project out of the garage so I can get the 100 in. This is my first mechanical failure in any of my Cruisers. I've dented, bashed, and broken stuff before but nothing mechanical. I knew that this was a weakness but failed to install the ARB in the front in time. Sitting on the shelf in the garage did me no good. The ARB carriers are stiffer than the factory ones and prevent this problem. ARGHH!

bummer Eric..... hope it is a spider gear issue......

RCKSQRL · 01-21-2009, 04:37 PM

Timmy...... you have just learned a good lesson..... when in doubt, power out!

glad everything but the seatcovers are ok!

Lumpdog · 01-21-2009, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCKSQRL

when in doubt, power out!

Those are words to live by! That's how I wheel.....

Trail Bus · 01-21-2009, 07:23 PM

Man, it didn't look that bad from the back. This is the first time I saw the video (can't count the tiny camera screen) and it made my fingers tingle.

LT. · 01-21-2009, 09:03 PM

CRAZY!! That fella in the Ford must have needed to pull the seat covers out of his back side.

LT.

Bringampain · 01-21-2009, 09:27 PM

Rule # 1298 There are no guarantee's in offroading..

ROTFLMFAOH

Carl · 01-22-2009, 10:33 PM

On the same note...here is a vid someone put up on another board..
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...down_57791.htm

Lumpdog · 01-22-2009, 10:49 PM

Nice XJ video. I still like the look of XJ's.

So I am sitting here thinking about it and I am thinking I am the only WWOR to have put their rig on the lid while wheeling. The XJ vid gave me a little nostalgia boost, I sure liked the way the Cherokee looked in this thread (before the roll): http://www.planet4x4.net/forums/show...=cherokee+roll

Lumpdog · 01-22-2009, 10:51 PM

Hey Carl, theres a good look at the suspension and bumpers you need in that thread as well.

Carl · 01-23-2009, 10:28 AM

Thanks Chris...looking now.

jpnbren · 01-23-2009, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bringampain

Rule # 1298 There are no guarantee's in offroading..

ROTFLMFAOH

No doubt ! Thats really funny! I caught myself saying that once and not as fortunate.

01-20-2009, 10:18 PM	#1
DiscoDave Riding Shotgun Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mountain Home, ID Posts: 96	Lizard Gulch Excitement Okay, finally got around to getting most of my pictures uploaded from yesterday. Gineric and I had been talking about doing a small group run and when he found he needed to take some action shots of Eric Kyle's Taco I jumped in with both feet. We tossed some ideas around and then made a plan to hit Lizard Gulch followed by Saylor's Cap. Tippy-Timmy (nickname explanation to follow,) also came along. You might remember he was the winner of the Big Boy Toy Expo for 2008. This was the first time he'd had his truck out on the rocks and this small group was a good way to introduce him to it. Just a few of the images that I've uploaded. I put the link for the rest of them at the bottom. The drop-in was an interesting experience in itself and we could have stopped there and it would had been enough. Eric V dropped in first followed by the Taco which were uneventful. Tippy-Timmy, first time in the rocks, had some trouble getting a good line. Eventually he begins making his way down and with no weight in the back it got tippy really fast, but nothing uncommon really. Let's just say it freaked him out a little. His main issue was driving a stick, because it quickly became apparent that finesse with the clutch was not something he really had down yet. That, and he enjoyed his brakes a little too much going down when he needed to let off a little. We had an interesting moment with his descent though and for a split second we all thought he was going over. In retrospect, I think God must have put his hand up on the truck because I think he was on one tire for a moment and miraculously he came down on all fours. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...77735897&hl=en http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...27969517&hl=en http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...81912084&hl=en Needless to say, he was a little shaken after that. The next few obstacles were uneventful. We all needed some spotting here and there and no other heart-pounding moments to speak of. We came to the end of the gulch and the Taco and Greg's TLC dropped down into the bottom at the last waterfall with no fanfare, and both emerged relatively easy. Eventually though, Gineric was goaded into taking his LC down ... my Rover wasn't even an option as I would have left my rear bumper in the bottom (and my wife would have accused me of doing it on purpose for a new HD bumper). Eric dropped down in just fine, but then on the way out a snap was heard. He gets the truck up onto level ground and we start investigating. Tires come off, drive flanges come off, driveshaft comes out ... we think it's the diff. We eat lunch and then head home, turning out at the mid-point since Eric was in two wheel drive. He needed to be strapped a few times, which we all figured, but then saved grace by climbing out of the gulch under its own power. Needless to say it was a fun, educational day, albeit and expensive one for some. I can't wait for the next one For the rest of my pictures the link is below. I'm sure there are more out there just waiting to be posted up. http://s679.photobucket.com/albums/v...0Gulch%202009/

01-20-2009, 11:38 PM	#4
LittleMan Spotter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mountain Home, ID Posts: 590	Re: Lizard Gulch Excitement I watched the video and am shaken up...I can't imagine how that felt to Tippy.

01-21-2009, 06:10 AM	#5
ginericLC Trail Leader Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mountain Home, IDaho Posts: 1,401	Re: Lizard Gulch Excitement It was not good. Brakes are bad! I think that might be the most scared I've been on the trail. I mean I've been around a lot of rolls but this was just freaky. I either have broken spider gears which would be good as it is $150 fix or the pinion slipped past the ring gear which will be about a $1200 fix. I'm going to tear into it on Sat. I have to get the project out of the garage so I can get the 100 in. This is my first mechanical failure in any of my Cruisers. I've dented, bashed, and broken stuff before but nothing mechanical. I knew that this was a weakness but failed to install the ARB in the front in time. Sitting on the shelf in the garage did me no good. The ARB carriers are stiffer than the factory ones and prevent this problem. ARGHH!

01-21-2009, 07:28 AM	#6
Carl Trail Runner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mountain Home, ID Posts: 256	Re: Lizard Gulch Excitement Good luck Eric, I hope it's not as bad as it sounds.

01-21-2009, 10:26 AM	#7
trevortoyota Stupid...but fun Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Italy Posts: 668	Re: Lizard Gulch Excitement i bet he went and bought some seat covers after that. maybe he needs a rear bumper to counter weight the front one. welcome o the rocks timmy!! __________________ "To infinity, and beyond!"-

01-21-2009, 03:16 PM	#8
Trail Bus Spotter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: M.H. Suburbs Posts: 669	Re: Lizard Gulch Excitement He had some bumper weight, Me and Erick Kyle at least untill the bumper was 8 feet in the air

01-21-2009, 04:16 PM	#9
BLK79K5 Trail Runner Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Nampa, ID Posts: 225	Re: Lizard Gulch Excitement Wow! Had to watch that a few times. Even made my stomach twitch! Way to scare the new wheeler guys... Guess ya really didn't want him to come out again eh?

01-21-2009, 04:37 PM	#11
RCKSQRL Rocking the Yota Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Boise Posts: 2,560	Re: Lizard Gulch Excitement Timmy...... you have just learned a good lesson..... when in doubt, power out! glad everything but the seatcovers are ok! __________________ '85 4Krawler Proud member of the Hillbilly Rock Krew, Class of '07 http://hillbillyrockkrew.com

01-21-2009, 07:23 PM	#13
Trail Bus Spotter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: M.H. Suburbs Posts: 669	Re: Lizard Gulch Excitement Man, it didn't look that bad from the back. This is the first time I saw the video (can't count the tiny camera screen) and it made my fingers tingle.

01-21-2009, 09:03 PM	#14
LT. Trail Runner Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico Posts: 287	Re: Lizard Gulch Excitement CRAZY!! That fella in the Ford must have needed to pull the seat covers out of his back side. LT.

01-21-2009, 09:27 PM	#15
Bringampain Trail Runner Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Caldwell Idaho Posts: 351	Re: Lizard Gulch Excitement Rule # 1298 There are no guarantee's in offroading.. ROTFLMFAOH

01-22-2009, 10:33 PM	#16
Carl Trail Runner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mountain Home, ID Posts: 256	Re: Lizard Gulch Excitement On the same note...here is a vid someone put up on another board.. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1...down_57791.htm

01-23-2009, 10:28 AM	#19
Carl Trail Runner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mountain Home, ID Posts: 256	Re: Lizard Gulch Excitement Thanks Chris...looking now.

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